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 chris garraway |
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Posts: 5 08/01/07 00:03:22 |
Has anyone fitted an electric winch to the coachroof ( above the starboard rear cabin). We are finding hoisting the last few feet of our fully battened main
just a bit too much work now.
If so how much do they cost in the States ( Lewmar or Harken?). Thanks for any feedback Chris Garraway -Jolini. Mk1. |
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yorkrose |
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Posts: 250 08/01/07 06:56:49 |
Chris,
We had a Harken 44 installed when the boat was new. This winch is a heavy-duty two-speed unit, and it works great. I don't believe Lewmar made anything quite comparable at that time. The cost was over $4000 in 1994. To install, a rectangular hole was cut in the inner liner in the starboard aft cabin (2 cabin CL model). The winch motor is at right angles to the winch shaft, and it just fits above the inner liner. A snap-on white cover was added to hide the motor. Looks fine. I do not know if the Mark I deck and cabin arrangement would allow the same sort of installation. There are several lower cost alternatives, including conversion kits. However, most of these will have some performance deficiencies. In particular, a single speed "40" size winch will either be very slow or very weak. Your choice, of course. When we bought the boat, Catalina was running a special with a free in-mast furling system. They would not give us a free electric halyard winch as a replacement for the furling. Even with the extra cost, I am very glad we got the electric winch. Regards, Gene Fuller Yorkshire Rose, C42 #870 |
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steveleshner |
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Posts: 51 08/01/07 08:54:25 |
I have bragged about my Milwakee 28 volt right angle cordless drill for along time and nobody has asked me about it further.It makes sailing a 42 easy,
singlehanded!!!.All you have to do is get the winchbit from winchbit.com and go to your local Milwakee dealer and pick a drill up .
.The charger takes only 1/2 hour to charge complete.You can recharge on the way via your converter.Why would you want to spend 5 times the money and cut a new hole in your boat when you don't have to??It takes the main all the way up and then I hand crank a few times for extra tension.I used to get tired by the time I raised the main I wanted to turn around and take a rest.It unfurls the head sail.Brings in the headsail all the way to the shroudes, furls the head sail when coming in and I even use it sometimes on the travler.Also comes in handy if you have to go aloft.I'm sold on it. Steve Leshner Batucada #386 2 cab Marina Del Rey ca |
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sashay567 |
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Posts: 188 08/01/07 09:19:36 |
I'm using the earlier 18V Milwaukee right angle drill and winchbit. As Steve said, the drill takes the main all the way up multiple times between charges.
The drill also makes ALL of your winches "electric". I won't go sailing without it!
Rodney Kidd, C-42 #567 Sashay, 2 Cabin Fin, Marina Village, Alameda, CA
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Posts: 475 08/01/07 12:08:02 |
Call me weird but I like hauiling and grinding.....some people go to gym to exercise muscles, I grind. lol
Lady Kay, C42#76, 1989, WK 3C. Chesapeake/Fort Lauderdale.
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pwinterfeld |
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Posts: 103 08/01/07 13:19:21 |
Here is my solution to the problem vs electric winches. I took the money that it would take to buy an electric winch - bought a set of bar bells and the
Milwaukee portable drill, then with the money that I saved a bought a case of Brandy. I have yet had to use the electric drill to winch the mainsail out (I did
say out didn't I - yes the furling in mast mainsail helps), have easely managed that chore with the strenght I that working out with the bar bells has
given me. If my mucles spasm - a shot of Brandy or three helps me forget the pain.
Peter C'est la Vie Hull #746 |
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chris garraway |
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Posts: 5 08/01/07 13:21:13 |
we had a very good write up in the uk "yachting monthly" magazine on the right angle drill but unfortunately although we can buy some Milwaukee
products in the UK nobody imports the right angle drill.
I am seriously thinking of importing one from thre States as the price is v good and it obviously seems to work!. can you tell me where you bought your please.? thanks chris garraway |
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jerrygagerman |
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Posts: 70 08/01/07 13:25:55 |
Chris,
I installed an electric Lewmar 40 this last winter, & it has done a good job. Gene on Yorkshire Rose is absolutely correct when he writes that a two speed electric 44 would be better. Size does matter (Ha Ha.) I did the installation myself, & this save a lot of money. The details of the installation are archived in the old 42 website in 2005 & 2006. Advice from members on this list proved invaluable. Yes, it's more costly than the 18v Milwaukee, but it sure has been a great addition to the boat, which we have owned since 1994. Good luck. Jerry Gagerman C-42 #431 Current Sea |
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chris garraway |
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Posts: 5 08/01/07 13:28:07 |
oscar wrote:Oscar I love a bit of excercise too but a ( successful) triple by pass only last Oct has slowed me down a bit!! I have only managed a 600 mile trip from Corfu to Turkey this year plus a few shorter 50 milers for good measure --- all with just the missus doing a lot of the hard work -so it`s to help her out a bit also. cheers chris garraway 
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jerrygagerman |
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Posts: 70 08/01/07 13:28:52 |
Chris,
I installed an electric Lewmar 40 this last winter, & it has done a good job. Gene on Yorkshire Rose is absolutely correct when he writes that a two speed electric 44 would be better. Size does matter (Ha Ha.) I did the installation myself, & this saved a lot of money. The details of the installation are archived in the old 42 website in 2005 & 2006. Advice from members on this list proved invaluable. Yes, it's more costly than the 18v Milwaukee, but it sure has been a great addition to the boat, which we have owned since 1994. Good luck. Jerry Gagerman C-42 #431 Current Sea |
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yorkrose |
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Posts: 250 08/01/07 18:03:18 |
I thought about the angle drill business as well. However, it is just one more loose piece of stuff that needs to be stored, hauled out, recharged, etc.
If one's only interest is in saving money, then there are lots and lots of ways to do so. Let's see; how about doing away with instruments? Throw a few chips in the water and time their movement. Use a lead line for depth measurement. Certainly a piece of magnetic tape on a stick can replace an expensive wind instrument. Autopilot? Who needs it? A couple of bungee cords will hold the wheel in place. Docking fenders can be replaced with (free) old tires. For the vast majority of owners these boats serve only for entertainment. I happen to like my electric halyard winch. If someone gets more enjoyment from cobbling together a low-cost effective solution using a drill motor, so be it. 8-) Regards, Gene Fuller Yorkshire Rose, C42 #870 |
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