Can any one tell me what the PHRF rating is on a Catalina 42 MK II Wing keel?
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 wayne |
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Posts: 1 09/13/05 05:55:37 |
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davewollin |
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Posts: 37 09/13/05 06:47:20 |
Base rating for a MKII for YRA of Long Island Sound is 102. Rather ridiculuous for a cruising boat like ours. I was told it got that way based on a Mark I that was tricked out and campaigned (maybe still is). I was able to get my handicap adjusted for a cruising rating to 112. The basis is roller furling, 140% genoa, Anchor and chain, etc.
My personal feeling is that our stock boat, wing keel, equiped for cruising should rate around 120 or so. I guess if someone want to race this boat seriously you could empty tanks, remove gear and furniture like tables and the bench in the cabin. Next would be a huge 3DL genny, high tech mainsail, and composite spars. If you want to do that, why buy a cruising boat anyway? |
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melelana |
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Posts: 327 09/13/05 07:06:58 |
Wayne,
Varies by region. PHRF Chesapeake has a base rating of 96 for either the wing or the fin as does not distinguish between Mk I or II. Roller furling/cruising sails get a 6 sec/mile credit and a fixed 3 bladed prop gets another 6. A Catalina 400 has a rating of 132 so we must be 36 sec/mile faster...... It's hard to compete W/L at that rating. Most PROs will start races in 5-6 knots of wind with .9 mile legs. Beer can races start if there is any wind. Our boats are too heavy to sail to a 102 rating on short courses in light wind. If you get 10-15 knots and can stretch out on longer legs, it makes a difference. Good luck, Larry Melelana, #175 1990 3 cbn, WK |
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svzephyr44 |
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Posts: 113 09/20/05 12:30:48 |
There is one Catalina 42 MK II Wing Keel that is current in the Lake Michigan PHRF Organization Database. His ratings, (not mine) are 108 Base, 114 Final, 129 Non-Spinnaker. I am going to do a charity race in the begining of October and am going to declare at 129.
Roger |
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garrywillis |
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Posts: 276 09/20/05 14:18:41 Moderator |
Roger,
While a 129 is a pretty good rating for a 42, you may be able to do better. For example, many times a race committee will give you an additional 3 sec a mile for a 140% jib instead of a 155% and they will give you an additional 3 for a furling jib and more for a furling main also. It would be worthwhile to check with the R/C for an exact determination. Hell, it might be worthwhile to hang a BBQ and an outboard from your stern rail also. Good luck and let us know how you do. Garry Willis "Breezn" #502
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countferrari |
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Posts: 94 09/24/05 08:09:12 |
I just joined the PHRF for the Seattle area with my 1994 MKI two cabin, fin keel, 140% headsail, standard main, cruising spinaker (not measured), and feathering prop (martec, three blade) giving me a formula of 4545 and a rating of 122. I suspect if I measure my chute I might get a 4 in place of the first '5'. I have no idea why my main got a 4 rating but I will not argue, maybe the stock mains are a bit small? It was built by Catalina. I think I have the only C-42 registered with PHRF in the NW. I hope this helps. (I did race with a 135 NFS in the Shaw Island Classic)
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470catalina42 |
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Posts: 58 09/24/05 13:45:33 |
I have a Mark I , 3-cabin Fin Keel with a 155, folding prop and the newer high-aspect ratio rudder. I race with a symmetrical spinnaker. I got an IRC rating this year for the Port Huron-Mackinac race. They gave me a .993 which is about equivalent to a PHRF of 99. Here in Michigan on Saginaw Bay I ave a PHRF of 99 for spinnaker and 108 for non-spinnaker races. Not competitive when the wind is less than 15 kts but we do quite well when it is over 20.
Norman Duford Fortune Cookie |
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