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 gasmanmd |
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Posts: 65 01/03/06 15:35:15 |
I am sure that one of the almost 1000 strong C42 owners has installed a washdown pump to handle the anchor locker and deck needs. I am looking at using a shurflo diaphragm pump mounted below the anchor locker and draw the water from the forward head inlet. Any words of wisdom would be much appreciated.
Thanks Scott MissAdventure C#123 |
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mfgrep3 |
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Posts: 11 01/03/06 16:55:46 |
I had our washdown pump installed last summer under the sink in the forward head also to the forward head inlet and it works great. As a added feature I took an old commerical dishwasher rack and cut it to fit down in the anchor locker and wrap it with an old dock line to give it some cushion on the sides. It works great for keeping the anclor line off the bottom of the locker and improves drainage. Would attach pictures but not sure how.
Mac Seas the Moment #853 |
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azure42 |
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Posts: 304 01/03/06 17:10:04 |
Scott,
I installed our's without too much trouble. I'd make one suggestion -- plumb your washdown system to use salt water and fresh water. I tapped into our forward 50 gallon tank for the fresh water. It's nice to rinse the salt crust off the boat and sails after a passage. I sometimes use sea water to wash the muck off the anchor rode as it comes aboard (although I confess, I'm usually too lazy to go down below to change the valves over and just use fresh water for that also). We have a water maker, but using too much fresh water for this was never an issue anyway while we cruised.....I was surprised by how little fresh water it took to make our decks and cockpit salt-free and not sticky. Washing the anchor rode was another matter -- that used up quite a bit of water. One other thing: use good quality fittings for your hose bib and on/off switch inside the anchor locker. Salt corrosion is inevitable and cheap fittings are eaten up fast. Rod Williams
Azure, #343, 2-cabin Alameda/San Francisco Bay, CA. |
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do335 |
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Posts: 249 01/03/06 21:55:43 |
Make sure your pump has enough lift to bring water up from head inlet to deck and still have plenty of flow and pressure.
I'm not sure what is a minimum, but more is better. I mounted my pump on aft side of anchor well inside same compartment as windless, but near port side. Be sure all fittings are strong as this pump will fill boat if a fitting comes off and power is left on.  Steve 642-2f TESA
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garrywillis |
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Posts: 263 01/03/06 23:39:37 Moderator |
Rather than install another system on my boat, I opted to simply go to my hardware store and purchase an adapter and 40' garden hose and use the transom shower for washdowns. I unscrew the shower head, and attach the hose and run it up the deck like that. Plenty of pressure. When not in use the hose coils nicely in the transom locker. No plumbing, no wiring, no potential leaks, no expensive pumps and no installation hassles.
Garry Willis "Breezn" #502
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CaptNorm42 |
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Posts: 616 01/03/06 23:48:41 Moderator |
My install was almost as simple as Garry's. The stock water pressure pump has enough pressure for me. Here's a link to photo & text on my setup (look for the photo of my dinghy at the bow):
www.catalina42.org/craftsman.htm#hull600-2 ~~~~_/)~~~~
Norm Perron, Hull #600/2 cabin, Aphrodisiac, Marina del Rey, CA |
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azure42 |
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Posts: 304 01/04/06 07:46:35 |
Norm and Garry,
Good ideas for simplifying a washdown system....you guys do great stuff with C42's. One influence for Scott to consider, though, is the type of holding ground in his favorite anchorages and the possible need for a more powerful stream of water for cleaning the rode. There's a saying in our area, "One teaspoon of bottom mud can paint your whole boat". We regularly anchor in the unbelievably thick clay mud of S.F. Bay's Clipper Cove and Aquatic Park....muck that usually contains a large contingent of red worms up to one-foot long. After just one night in Clipper Cove I've pulled up our all-chain rode looking like a gray 3" OD fire hose and our 66 lbs. anchor like a huge round ball, they are so caked with clay. Once, in Aquatic Park, I found a crab packed inside the mud ball as I hosed off the anchor. Some of the other anchorages we love include generous clumps of seaweed with the mud, so that a boat pole/pitchfork attachment would come in handy along with our powerful washdown pump. Has anyone had any luck with the circular-brush-on-a-pole thing we've seen advertised for cleaning rodes? Photo of washdown hose on deck: pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/r3333_99/detail?.dir=4fc0&.dnm=aa58.jpg&.src=ph By the way, the photo shows me using the windlass to haul my wife up the mast...piece of cake. Rod Williams
Azure, #343, 2-cabin Alameda/San Francisco Bay, CA. |
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gasmanmd |
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Posts: 65 01/04/06 09:20:56 |
Rod: Not sure I am ever going to get my wife up the mast!
As to our mud, it is typical Chesapeake Bay "gunk". It doesn't sound as nasty as what you describe. It still makes sense to me to use the bay water for these wash-down tasks. What type of pump did you use, where is it located, how is it plumbed, is it switched in the anchor locker, where is the hose stored, etc.? We have 90 gals. of fresh water capacity. If we are out for a few days, this supply is used up fairly quickly by showers, cooking, dishes, etc. I would prefer to save the fresh water for these demands and draw from the bay for the deck cleaning needs. Thanks for your insights. Scott |
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azure42 |
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Posts: 304 01/04/06 09:53:17 |
Scott,
We mounted the pump under the pullman berth. The pump came already attached to a piece of Starboard with rubber vibration dampers on its feet, so I just screwed it in place on the hull stringer under the bunk (remove the drawers for easy access). Plumbed into the seawater intake from the head and into the water line from the forward fresh water tank, with appropriate valves to protect against any cross-pollution. The hose bib and the on/off switch are in the anchor locker, with power taken off the windlass wiring (when the pump is needed, the heavy windlass breaker switch must be flipped on. Never had any trouble when running the pump and windlass at the same time). I won't be on the boat for a few weeks -- going on a cruise ship to Mexico to warm up -- but I'll take photos of the whole set-up for you the next time I'm aboard. Sorry, right now I can't remember the specs of the pump, etc. If you don't want to plumb into your fresh water, Garry's solution is an excellent way for hosing off the salt in your cockpit to avoid that "sticky" touch on everything. Good luck with your installation. Rod Williams
Azure, #343, 2-cabin Alameda/San Francisco Bay, CA. |
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gasmanmd |
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Posts: 65 01/04/06 10:11:56 |
Wear your sunscreen. It is freezing up here! My boat is "on the hard", so I have a few monthes to get these projects done. Look forward to your pics.
Scott |
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pdrimmer |
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Posts: 150 01/04/06 10:17:10 |
I have a pullman. Also mounted a Groco unit on the frame of the drawers. Teed of the head inlet with a stopvalve supplied with the unit. This location keeps the distance to prime the pump very small. I ran wires from the windlass battery, put another switch and fuse next to the windlass breaker. I than ran a hose to the anchor locker with a fitting. A 7 foot piece of garden hose completes the installation.
While installation works great, I like Gary's solution better if you do not mind using fresh water. |
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