What's the technique to make a C42 heave-to? The best I could do was leave the mainsail up on the 2nd reef and roll-up the headsail all the way with full
opposite rudder, giving me a fairly docile boat, but still moving forward at around 1 knot.
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Posts: 47 04/20/08 15:10:57 |
I've not tried it but wouldn't the standard method be sheeting in the jib on the windward side with the helm part way over trying to point the bow up
wind? The jib and helm should be at odds with each other keeping the boat balanced.
Steve Eller, Hull #446, 3 cabin, Annapolis, MD
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Posts: 10 04/21/08 04:36:19 |
You're right. That's the standard (textbook) way. However, probably based on traditional fat-underbelly boats. But it seems to be recognized in
books/video by the experts that this may not work with modern racer-cruiser designs.
I've found with experimentation so far that with the windage in the bow of a C42; or probably any other boat of the racer-cruiser design; you must keep some mainsail up and sheet in the headsail to little or nothing, otherwise the bow goes down wind fast. In my last effort, I was able to keep the boat stable with some headsail, but it only proved to move the boat forward at another knot of speed. I need to know if you can stop this boat without using a sea-anchor. Has anyone had success with any other approaches? |
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Posts: 258 04/21/08 17:53:04 |
I've always had success back winding the jib, leave the main loose and turning the wheel into the wind. Slowing to 1 kt is what you want, you won't
come to complete stop, just slow and steady fore reaching.
Steve 642-2f TESA
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Posts: 10 04/22/08 22:14:16 |
How much headsail (% of foretriangle) do you have out?
s/v Best Revenge - hull #706 2-Cabin-P |
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Posts: 47 04/23/08 13:56:31 |
What conditions are you thinking of? I'm sure it will be be very different in 20 knots with standard sails vs 60 knots with a storm main and jib.
Steve Eller, Hull #446, 3 cabin, Annapolis, MD
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Posts: 328 04/23/08 15:30:36 |
BestRevenge wrote: Usually, all of it. The mainsail too.
Rod Williams
Azure' #343, 2-cabin fin Alameda/San Francisco Bay, CA.
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Posts: 123 04/23/08 18:25:31 |
I agree. I just haul the lazy sheet until it is tight - brings the jib to the "wrong" side of the boat and she calms down very nicely. Since I have a
big overlapping jib there is some desire to furl just so it isn't dragging against the mast as we sheet it down but it is really not necessary.
I agree, in a very strong wind I would be at the second reef point in the mail and have all but a little of the jib furled. But the real key it seems to me is to get the lazy sheet pulled in hard.
Roger
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Posts: 10 04/24/08 11:06:17 |
Has anyone been able to make a C42 truely stop? That is, the condition described by Larry Pardey et.al. in which the boat gradually slides to leeward creating
a 'slick' that calms a violent sea.
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Posts: 328 04/24/08 12:10:31 |
Except maybe on a lake, it's rarely possible to get any boat to "truely stop" for anything other than a short period of time. Current, wind,
wakes, etc. will always work to keep some motion going. Unless Bahama-moored or fore-and-aft, even at anchor a boat will swing around or "sail".
Heaving-to is about as good as it gets on open water.
From sailonline: When a sailboat is set in a heave-to position, she slows down considerably and keeps moving forward at about 1 to 2 kts, but with a significant amount of drift. The drift creates some turbulence on the water, and that disturbance decreases significantly the sea aggressiveness. The pounding felt when going upwind in strong seas almost miraculously disappears and the boat does not heel as much. This is MUCH more comfortable. It's a little bit like "parking" the boat on idle speed. The limitations of this technique are: a)you need enough sea room because of the important drift; and b) beyond a certain level of wind, other measures need to be taken.
Rod Williams
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Posts: 47 04/24/08 15:10:29 |
In violent seas I would consider 1 or 2 knots to be "stopped".
Steve Eller, Hull #446, 3 cabin, Annapolis, MD
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Posts: 10 04/29/08 19:22:35 |
Thanks for the input. I'll keep practicing with different configurations.
The previous post quoted sailonline: "the drift creates some turbulance on the water, and that disturbance decreases significantly the sea agressiveness". So, the goal is stay leeward of that turbulance to the extent possible, and not out-run it. I bought a parachute-anchor, if necessary. I've practiced with it on deck, but haven't gotten it wet yet. s/v Best Revenge - hull #706 2-Cabin-P |
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