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capt Bear	fresh water problems		Lead	[-]
Posts: 31 03/24/08 18:43:07	Tags : None I have had a problem with the fresh water system on the boat since I got it. all tanks are full and still no water at the tap. I have had water coming out like it was supposed too, but all the sudden it will just stop, ??? sometimes its not running you go to use it and its not there...when this happens the pump has usually started running....I understand this means its pressurizeing, but there is no leak and all tanks are full. I read in another post that a 920? not sure of number had faulty pump, and on replaceing it fixed the problem. Is it likely that I ended up with bad pump as well? Well hope you can follow what I wrote. Its kinda frustrating when your all soapy and the water stops Thanks for the input ahead of time. Barry Surprise #998 3-cabin Pullman w/k
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peter	same	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 246 03/25/08 04:56:39	Do not know what type of pump you have , but something is not right. It could be a bad pressure switch or a clog in a diaphram. I do not believe it is a bad line as all your water taps are acting the same so that would isolate the problem at the pump/pressure switch. Hope to hear what the problem was, good luck... Peter
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setfree42		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 24 03/25/08 05:34:31	This may not be causing your problem, but I want to point out that some people leave all 4 water tank valves open. What happens is when one tank drains, the air gets sucked into the system from the empty tank causing the pump to run w/o pulling water. Remember that the two subsole tanks have half the capacity of the forward and aft tanks, so they can run out more quickly. Opening one tank at a time prevents this "air-lock" problem, and also gives you an indication of when it's time to fill the tanks again. Bob Snider Catalina 42 MK2, Hull #556/3 cabin fin keel. "Set Free" - Northport, NY
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seaair	pump problems	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 64 03/25/08 08:01:23	Catalina did have a bad run of pumps, but that was years ago. (Our boat is #920, a 2005 C42) I suspect they have worked through their inventory. It could be a bad pump, or the problem could be upstream of the pump. The suggestion regarding making sure only one tank is open is a good one. Also, you might check the lines from the manifold to the pump to make sure you don't have an air leak. I don't trust the Whale fittings not to leak if they are under too much of a side load. Good luck. Warren Seattle, WA Sutlej, #920 3-cabin pullman
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brucegorle		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 29 03/25/08 14:34:32	I had a similar problem on #903. I replaced the pump and shipped it to a Jabsco repair facility in Vancouver. It was repaired at no cost including shipping and I kept it as a spare. Two weeks ago the pump I purchased also packed it in and I replaced it with the spare"original pump" I sent this one to the same repair facility and apparently the pump picked up a small plastic shaving left from the ainsallation. Unfortunately in the process it tore the valve which cost$24.00 to replace. A word of caution the repair facility said if I had opened the pump for some invesigative work that would have voided the warrenty. It seems to me you have anew boat so I think that the pump probably picked up some foriegn debree and the valves are stuck open. If the dealer is close make it his problem. I kow the problem with the soap only in my case it was the Admiral!! Bruce Gorle Lifes Tough 903 2 cab.
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tinolanza		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 213 03/25/08 16:06:12	We had similar problems when we first got Dancing Dolphin. In the end there were 3 different causes to our problems (vent, accumulator and hole in a line). Here are some things to look for: 1) Accumulator tank -- if you have a piston-type pump then you will have an accumulator pump in the system just after the pump. Make sure this tank is not "water logged" as this will cause frequent cycling of the pump. 2) Tank vents -- we discovered that one of our tanks was not venting properly because the vent cap was actually a solid cap not permitting any air to flow. This caused to pump to work hard with very little water flow 3) Tank Manifold -- as pointed out above, you want to have all but one tank inline at a time 4) Screen/filter -- on the outlet side of the manifold there is a screen which could become clogged with debris, especially in a new boat. unscrew the filter and check that it is clear. 5) Holes in the lines -- in our case we discovered the line from the tank manifold to the pump had a hole in it. This caused the pump to constantly suck air and lose prime. Made for erratic water flow. There has been many discussion on the pump models, etc. We changed to a VSP pump 3 years back and since then have had good water flow and pressure through out the system. Tino Lanza, Dancing Dolphin (#739/3 cabin pullman, Westlake Village, CA)
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pwinterfeld	No water pressure	#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 108 03/26/08 02:51:22	When I first got the new to us C'est la Vie - water pressure was intermittant until I replaced the pressure regulator on the pump - then it tripped the circuit breaker until I replaced the pump with a 3.2 VSD pump - then that new pump quit working until I cleaned the mesh screen which was blocked with plastic shavings that the water pressure from the new pump stirred up. Peter C'est la Vie Hull #746
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ajchan		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 155 03/26/08 06:56:33	CB Since you have a new boat, I would call the dealer to come and replace the pump! On our first Catalina, C320-936, we had a very similar situation and it turned out that one of the diaphragms was cracked. On our C42, I replaced the sewing machine style Jabsco with a VSD 4.5 and have been very satisfied with the performance. Addison Threepenny Opera 1999 C-42 MK II, 2CP Wing #640 http://the-voyages-of-threepenny-opera.blogspot.com/
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capt Bear	possable fix to water problems	#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 31 03/28/08 18:57:39	We think we have found the problem. While haveing the AC (air conditioning) instaled this weekend the guy doing the work noticed the bilge pump was cycling a lil to much, well, come to find out a fitting on the water heater was not tight, go figure, not first fitting I have found loose. Any how, he tightend it up and put water in the tank that it had empyted and low the water works....So far I am hoping this is the problem. I will be sure to keep you posted. I really apprciate all the quick input, it helped to work though the issues. Thanks Barry
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Sandy Golden	Air Conditioning	#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 21 03/29/08 05:24:35	Capt. Bear, Can you share info on your new air conditioning installation. Cost, type and size of equipment, how and where it was installed on your boat. Thanks
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capt Bear	AC instal info	#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 31 03/29/08 19:51:58	This is the info that I have on the AC thus far. First I have 3 cabins Pullman. Ok...there are two units, they went with a split set up with both condensers in the aft port lazarett on the small shelf that located there, an air handler in fwd cabin hanging locker, with vents into main cabin and fwd cabin. Then second air handler is in the port aft cabin hanging locker, with control units one in main salon, and one in port aft cabin, I think it also has a vent into main salon but not sure yet. The thru hull was put in near the engine intake thru hull, (note, this is where the thru hull for the generator was supposed to be, but installer in CA. forgot to install it, it's now in the port lazarett, not greats spot bit it works.) The stb cabin has no vents and will rely on air from main salon to make its way there possible aided with a small fan. This was the trade off. On an older C42 I saw the AC installed in the main salon under the set closest to the fwd cabin, however on my boat they have put batteries here as well as under the port aft cabin berth. If there are more questions feel free to ask. Oh the cost for the two units installed is $10,000.00 Which is in line with other estiments that I have had. But with the heat in Ky I think it will be worth it, and will keep the future Admiral very happy. Also I have had two Vacu Flush heads installed as well. The two heads are set up thus. Fwd head has its pressure unit under the fwd berth the bottom drawer was made smaller to fit the unit. The second unit is in the engine room located on a platform built above the water heater. its pretty quite also, the total cost for the two head was $6,000.00, thats installed. Just thought would throw that las lil bit in just in case. as I can get pics I will try to post them, it may be a bit before I can get back to the boat, but am shooting for next weekend. take care all Barry Barry Surprise #998 3-cabin Pullman w/k
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