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Phoenixbill |
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I have an 89 Yanmar 4JHBE diesal with 2200 hours on it. What is the recommended oil change intervals??
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garrywillis |
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Every one hundred hours or once a season on the engine oil. Change the filter too.
Garry
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pwinterfeld |
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Hi
Oil changing - I am a firm believer that you cannot change oil and filter often enough. I took one Yanmar engine to 13,000 hrs and it still was strong. I sold the boat and the new owner promptly took it to Mexico for the season without any engine problems. I usually change oil between 25 and 50 hrs or 90 days whichever comes first. I bought a suction device from WM - start the engine and run it for 15 minutes. Then I insert the suction wand into the dipstick and pour myself a cup of coffee and relax a few moments, because it will take 10 or 15 minutes to suck out the sump. Then I pour another two quarts of oil into the engine - start it for a few moments - and suck out the oil again. Afterwards I remove the filter and fill the engine with fresh oil. Peter C'est la Vie Hull #746 |
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philip vizzini |
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I also have a 1989 my mechanic suggests once a season or every 90 hours. change the oil
before you lay up fot the winter. What weight oil should I use and what brand does yanmar suggest. Phil second wind annapolis #95 |
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CaptNorm42 |
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I've been told by a few authorities Chevron Delo 400 straight 30 weight is the best. That's what I put in.
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Norm Perron, Hull #600/2 cabin, Aphrodisiac, Marina del Rey, CA |
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pdrimmer |
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Norm,
There is a kit that you can purchase. It is an adaptor that screws on to the oil filter fitting with two hoses and another adaptor for the filter that can be mounted on a bulkhead. Cost is about $250 |
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CaptNorm42 |
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I've heard of such devices. I just wish it was designed to be verticle. Could save $250 and less chance of a fitting or hose to leak...
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Norm Perron, Hull #600/2 cabin, Aphrodisiac, Marina del Rey, CA |
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afterglow |
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I change the oil at 75-100hr. intervals, plus at the beginning and end of each season.
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symandalay |
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Shell Rotella is the oil of choice according to our local Yanmar dealer. I use the 15W 40 from Walmart. We tend to run our engine for long stretches at one
time, not 10 minute bursts, so I change oil at about 100 hour intervals. Yanmar actually suggests 150 hours, but everyone agrees that more often can only help
prolong the life of the engine. When cruising in remote places, getting rid of the used oil can be a challenge.
I looked into substitute oil filters at one time. You can get a Fram filter that fits O.K. In doing some research however, I discovered that there really is a difference in construction between a cheap filter like a Fram and a manufacturer's filter like a Yanmar. The Yanmar may not filter any better but it has metal internal parts that are unlikely to fail compared to the Fram which is all cardboard and paper on the inside. For anyone who obsesses over oil and filters, you have your own discussion group available here http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/ubbthreads.php Colin |
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countferrari |
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The Yanmar manual for my JH2HE?? something... says 150 hours between oil changes. You can never change it too often but some of the replies above seem to
excessive oil changers to me. I get to it at the end of the season and when I remember to check the hours.
For oil change pump I have a Suck It up vacuum pump ($80 ~) and it is absolutely great. Quiet and effective, suck it right out of the dipstick. No installation issues. Pack the oil to the used oil at the head of the dock. Painless! I have the 3 gallon capacity and take out about 6 liters each time. I use Delo 400 from Costco at $55/ 6 gallons in gallon containers.
S/V Jah Mon,1994, Mark I,Hull #428,Two Cabin,Fin Keel,Anacortes, WA,Puget Sound PHRF 122
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leegardner |
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Seen all the discussion about oil change frequency, buy don't recall anyone talking about how much oil is used / engine oil capacity and haven't been
able to find it in the owners / service manuals. Thanks.
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jrmostel |
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I just changed the oil on Cat's Paw (hull no. 627, Yanmar 4JH2E) this weekend at the end of the season. I use a hand
vacuum pump manufactured by Pella. It takes about 1 gallon, roughly thesame amount each time. I measure how much oil I have used by returning the used oil
from the reservoir of the Pella oil change system to the same one gallon container of new oil that I have just used to fill the oil reservoir of the engine.
After running the engine for a short time to fill the oil filter (the oil filter holds less than a 1/2 cup of oil) I'm usually right between the two lines
on the dip stick.
Removing the oil filter can be a bit messy because it
still holds about 1/2 cup of oil after the vacuum pump has removed the oil from the engine sump. Anyone have any good suggestions for protecting this area
during oil changes?
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garrywillis |
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One simple solution is to place a zip lock bag over the oil filter and then unscrew the filter. Any excess oil is then caught in the bag along with the filter
and then disposed of properly. I have also placed a shallow aluminum disposable cooking pan under the engine to catch any errant drips from the engine. It
basically fills the entire pan and is much easier to clean up then without. It's also very easy to inspect whatever may have dropped into the pan this way.
Garry
"Breezn" #502 2-Cabin |
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ajchan |
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In addition to the baggie, I also put down the non woven fibre pads that you can find in any automotive parts store, or at WM for 3 times the price. They can
absorb quite a bit of spillage before there is a greasy mess. The best thing about these pads is that you can stuff them in your cupboards and lockers to keep
stuff from rattling around!
Addison
Threepenny Opera
1999 C-42 MK II, 2CP Wing #640 http://the-voyages-of-threepenny-opera.blogspot.com/ |
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pwinterfeld |
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Hi Captains
I tried the zip lock baggy wrapped around the filter trick - too much escapes. Captain Norm had a better idea- he told me what he does - he puts a bunch of news paper underneath the filter and then puts those oil soaked newspaper pages into a large zip lock baggy for proper disposal. I tried it and it works great. Peter C'est la Vie Hull #746 |
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Paladin42Peter |
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The manual for the 4JH2E shows engine oil capacity as 2.5 liters. The transmission (KM4A) has a capacity of 0.2 liters. Both engine and trans use the same oil
SAE 20/30.
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kenfischer |
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You can custom cut the bottom of a 1 gallon milk jug to fit just under the filter. It works great at catching all the oil.
To see a picture of how this works, click my name to the left, then click "View My Images"
Ken Fischer
2005 C42 #906 "Solaria" 3 Cabin Pullman, Fin Keel, Mast Furling Main, 155% Genoa
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