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 cathyinct |
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Posts: 310 08/04/07 16:46:15 |
Hi Guys,
Does anyone else experience problems when loading the boat with diesle fuel ? We generally have a diaper out to capture leaking pink fuel. Has anyone beefed up the vent and how did you do it ? Cathy in CT |
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Posts: 173 08/04/07 17:46:56 Moderator |
Cathy:
Is your problem at the vent, or overflowing the fill? If the vent is the problem, try installing a "Tank Vent Surge Protector". Made by Attwood. I haven't done it yet, but it's on my list.
Ken Fischer
2005 C42 #906 "Solaria" 3 Cabin Pullman, Fin Keel, Mast Furling Main, 155% Genoa |
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azure42 |
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Posts: 321 08/05/07 05:37:21 |
Cathy,
Try one of these -- Racor Fuel/Air Separator, http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|311|302335|107095|699530&id=133911 These are a quick installation job (15 minutes) and completely solve the problem snorting fuel out of the vent.. If you look around the internet you might find a better price, but Defender will usually match any lower price if you find one.
Rod Williams
Azure' #343, 2-cabin fin Alameda/San Francisco Bay, CA.
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cathyinct |
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Posts: 310 08/05/07 14:40:13 |
Thanks guys for your suggsetions... I will review and get one soon. I have had it with this situation. C |
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Posts: 246 08/06/07 05:21:37 |
when fueling, turn off blowers, turn ignition to on position, and watch fuel gauge, when gauge hits F, stop. never over filled or spilt fuel after 3 boats and
over 30 years on the water
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Posts: 4 08/07/07 20:37:07 |
I found that the fuel tank vent is essentially horizontal on hull # 825. If boat is trimed with stern down the vent can have pockets of fuel that splash out
as fuel is added. I fuel with an empty aft water tank and empty aft holding tank and have the foward water tank full. I also have some one stand on bow to
ensure the vent drains any fuel back to the tank. This greatly reduced fuel spitting from the vent and fill openings. I tried the fuel- vent seperator and it
made the situation worse. hull 825, 3 cabin centerline
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pwinterfeld |
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Posts: 108 08/08/07 07:06:46 |
Hi
Here is my two cents worth. Every time I have fueled up in the past we spend at least half an hour mopping up spilled fuel. The icing of the cake happened in Bodega Bay where, when fueling up, we spilled at least a gallon of diesel. Unfortunately it was right in front of a Coast Guard Cutter that was also fueling up. We had the whole area around the boat covered with those white absorbent pads trying to mop up the spill. The CG came over, this time not to ticket but to help. When they discovered that I was deaf they made a suggestion - why not use the containers that off road motor cyclers use, the ones with that long flexible spout - and hand fill the boat. Fueling with those cans can be controlled by simply placing your finger over the vent button. We have done this ever since and have yet spilled a drop. I know its a pain to do this - I would not do this exercise if we had a power boat. So every few months we motor to the fuel dock - fill up our three cans (5 gallons each) Take them back to our slip and fuel the boat. Yes I have the whistle, can't hear it. I also have the Racor / Fuel separator doesn't work. The reason for our spilling is that many Fuel Docks (including in our marina) have pumps that exceed our boats capacity to absorb the volume of fuel. In my experience the fuel we spilled did not come out of the vent but directly from the filler hose. Peter C'est la Vie Hull #746 |
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svzephyr44 |
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Posts: 113 08/09/07 07:01:00 |
I would have passed on this topic except for a recent very strange experience. We "fully" fueled Reboot only to find that the fuel gauge said that
the tank was half full. In fact, we did this three times. Since we were dealing with battery issues at the time I just cleaned up the connections from the fuel
tank sender (there was paint on the electrical connection) and took it as a matter of faith that the tank was full. Well, not only faith, but we also were
getting a little bit of fuel out of the vent and the filler hose was filling up as we dripped fuel in. We, like most, don't ever open the fuel hose from
the marina fully - it overpowers the system. We all agreed we had a full tank each of the three times.
Imagine our suprise when the engine stopped exactly as the fuel gauge predicted - after a half a tank of usage. Also imagine our surprise when we refilled the tank with 37.8 gallons of diesel and the fuel gauge said (you guessed it!) FULL. Of course running the tank to truly empty resulted in having to change out the fuel filters and a lot of other aggrevation. Not to mention that running out of fuel at 4 AM 35 miles from shore in light winds wasn't great fun! We still have not figured out just what happened. We assume some kind of vapor lock. However, we now know that if the gauge doesn't say "full" it is time to open the top of the tank at the filler hose and find out what exactly is going on. |
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Posts: 20 08/10/07 21:23:43 |
Rod,
What a great idea, I'm going to get one of those and install it on Pure Joy. I had no idea those things existed. Jim Lee s/v Pure Joy #508 - 3 cabin pullman Tacoma |
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oscar |
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Posts: 475 08/11/07 05:33:44 |
when fueling, turn off blowers, turn ignition to on position, and watch fuel gauge, when gauge hits F, stop. never over filled or spilt fuel after 3 boats and over 30 years on the water It's called "Coast Guard Full". Looking at the hull ## you guys are all MarkII's.....Lady Kay has her filler vertical on the stern, even more of a challenge. A wad of paper towel under the filler, very careful nozzle control, and a lot of patience are required. Fortunately any spillage collects on the poop deck, and can be cleaned up without ending up in the water.
Lady Kay, C42#76, 1989, WK 3C. Chesapeake/Fort Lauderdale.
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