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Despite the great reports from our fin keel brethern, I only had about 3 other wing keel owners indicate real interest in a new rudder design for wing keel boats.

I contacted a well known yacht designer and the folks at Foss Foam who make rudders for a living. Design and molds total around $4,500. It takes 15-20 rudders to amortize that non recurring expense and buy rudders for close to the same price Catalina charges... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (melelana) http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/sreply/4718 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 18:01:11 GMT http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/reply/4717/t/New-Rudder.html#reply-4717 feeds@yuku.com (don) http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/sreply/4717 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 11:03:45 GMT http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/reply/4720/t/New-Rudder.html#reply-4720
I agree w/the above. We put a new rudder and Flex-o-fold prop on #450/fin keel and it is a new boat, both under sail and power. Steers better and easier, autopilot is happier, and we have more speed under sail and power.

The rudder swap was relatively painless as Catalina made the new one to fit (we gave them the hull #) It just slid right in. The installers had to drill some holes to pin it to the quadrent but it... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (lakandjc) http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/sreply/4720 Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:46:51 GMT http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/reply/4719/t/New-Rudder.html#reply-4719
John Foy
"Destiny" #329 2 cabin fin
Alameda, CA ]]> feeds@yuku.com (destinysfo) http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/sreply/4719 Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:15:11 GMT http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/reply/4716/t/New-Rudder.html#reply-4716






Steve Leshner, #386 Batucada,
Marina Del Rey Ca. 1993 2 cab fin


]]> feeds@yuku.com (steveleshner) http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/sreply/4716 Mon, 05 Jun 2006 11:04:13 GMT http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/reply/4715/t/New-Rudder.html#reply-4715
I haven't made the change as the new rudder would be deeper than my wing keel. Not a good way to find the bottom. For a fin keel boat, I think it's a priority upgrade.

As Norm says, weather helm is rudder angle required to keep the boat from heading closer to the wind. A small amount of weather helm is desireable. The force you feel in the wheel from weather helm is caused by 2 factors - the rudder angle required to... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (melelana) http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/sreply/4715 Mon, 05 Jun 2006 04:03:19 GMT http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/reply/4714/t/New-Rudder.html#reply-4714
Norman Duford
Fortune Cookie
Mark I,... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (470catalina42) http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/sreply/4714 Sun, 04 Jun 2006 19:32:27 GMT http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/reply/4713/t/New-Rudder.html#reply-4713
I have a 1995 mk2 fin keel. What benefits did you experience on changing to the new design? Is it related to weather helm? I am no expert in this field but I am trying to understand the link between the rudder and weather helm. I can understand that if the new rudder has a larger surface area,then less rudder movement will be required to keep the boat straight but then the drag on the boat will be the same as with the existing rudder. Perhaps there are... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (davidirvine) http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/sreply/4713 Sun, 04 Jun 2006 06:41:28 GMT http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/reply/4712/t/New-Rudder.html#reply-4712
If you have a fin keel, the feedback would say the new rudder is well worth it. If you have a wing keel, you're stuck with the stock barn door rudder as there hasn't been enough interest to justify a custom design.

One thing to consider if you're boat was built in 1989, 1990, or early in 1991. Early production rudder shafts were changed to a stronger design.

Larry

... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (melelana) http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/sreply/4712 Sun, 04 Jun 2006 06:28:00 GMT http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/topic/1403/t/New-Rudder.html feeds@yuku.com (davidirvine) http://catalina42discussionforum.yuku.com/topic/1403 Sun, 04 Jun 2006 06:07:15 GMT